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This topic is: If you had only one choice between a head lamp or bike mount which would you choose?

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Name: BaronKarza
Email: shadowhawk30@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, Jun 18, 2009, 12:46:13
Message:
HELMET MOUNT! DId my first-ever ride with a 5-watt handlebar light and panicked with every tiny rock or stick that cast a deep shadow due to the low position/angle of the light. Did my second ride with a 3-watt helmet light. Major difference! Hairpin turns and technical stuff were *far* easier. Just had to tweak the angle on the helmet so the center of the spotlight was where my eyeballs were expecting. A second bar-mount light would be nice, but would *not* have to be a 30-watt HID.

Name: Gordon Parker
Email: Gordzilla@centurytel.net
Date: Sat, Nov 01, 2008, 02:12:41
Message:
I just got a new schwin town cruzer 08 i'm looking for some realy awesome Lights to use on my Bike but would like them as Skulls and Front head light with Red Blue and white Flashing lights i searve on Fire search and resue and would love to have these on my bike it's only a quarter mile to the station so i could ride my bike but need lights so peeps know i'm heading to a Call on my Bike but want the lights in form of Skulls. if anyone knows were i could get these for front light and tail lights it would be a big help thanks.

Name: Dr Dan Batchelor
Email: DrBatch@aol.com
Date: Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:36:37
Message:
The Lights & Motion lamp on your helmet is all you need. Without it, you will be in my office on Monday!!.

Dr. Dan Batchelor
Batchelor Chiropractic-Roswell, GA
770 992-2002

Name: Jack
Email: mr.jackconnolly@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 23:52:12
Message:
Take one and steal the other if necessary. I crashed in a ravine in the middle of the night (Big Bear '06), battery mount on my frame came loose on the rocks (huge dent still in my frame) and unplugged my headlamp. Battery pack fell to pieces and each piece dropped in between the rocks (in the middle of the night in the middle of a forest). I had velcroed and small LED handheld light onto my helmet as a secondary and that was the difference in getting back before sunrise. On my way back in I passed a guy walking the track in the dark. His bike was smashed really bad (flattened his front rim on a tree/rock obstacle). He had been walking so long that his headlight battery ran out. I gave him mine to at least light the way 'home'. He was very happy for the favor.

Name: scott
Email: Not Available
Date: Tue, May 09, 2006, 08:49:35
Message:
helmet mount=NO VISION IN DUST OR FOG


Name: Andrew
Email: arappl@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, Feb 28, 2006, 15:46:40
Message:
Does anyone have a set of the new Blackburn X6 lights? Found a place that sells them for under $200 and thought they would be a good deal.



Name: Jason
Email: jrsheeley@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2005, 13:05:24
Message:
Buy, borrow, or rent two HID's, if it is at all possible. I owned one and borrowed one and I kid you not, the course looks like daytime with two of them.

Name: danny manny
Email: pumpkinmandan@aol.com
Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2004, 23:41:13
Message:
the anser is the head lamp>because the light goes where you look>you can look into and around corners>or if something is wrong with your bike you can look down while your riding to see whats up>yes to have both would be great but the first light to get without question is the head lamp>it's much more useful

Name: Chris
Email: chris.holland@cognis-us.com
Date: Sun, Oct 12, 2003, 12:55:09
Message:
I say bar mount because I've got a Nite Rider HID and it's got a wide & bright enough beam to cover switchbacks. It also allows you to see in 3D. Only downside is if you have a technical. Carry a small penlight for these situations. Handlebar only would be tough without an HID light.

Name: Ron
Email: cdalef2000@aol.com
Date: Sat, Oct 11, 2003, 18:43:51
Message:
I have both bar and helmet mounted lights. The best is obvious both, but that was not your question. If you have to choose go with the helmet light. I have ridden with both seperately for teams and solo and after 9 24 hour races, i would rather have 15 watts on my helmet than 32 on my bars. Wieght, space on your bars, and all the other arguements aside it comes down to being able to put the light where you want it without having to point your bike that way. Remember when you first started riding and read magazines about how to ride better? They always said look at least 15 feet down the trail, more if you are going faster. Remember? The point is most trails are not perfectly stright. So how can uyou look down the trail like you would during the day if you can't aim your light where you want. Good luck have fun. Hope that helps ya.

Name: Ernie Stefely
Email: ernie@fioreandsons.com
Date: Sat, Aug 02, 2003, 17:33:34
Message:
Dark is dark. In the desert dark is darker. If you're putting the effort and engery into pulling-off this ride, buy the best an only cry once! A CatEye Stadium 3 will light all you need to see (and probably more than you want to see at 3:00 am).

Name: Dtm
Email: dtm2u@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Apr 10, 2003, 19:20:45
Message:
I asked this same question. Read all the pros and cons and went with the helmet lights (HID). They were so bad I turned them off because the moon light worked better. The problem? Helmet lights light up all the dust, also my depth perception was way off. I exchanged them for the HID bars and will never go back! Everyone always talks about how bright the HID's are. I belive this is not a big advantage. But what is so great about the HID's is the wider beam pattern. I'm using the Light in Motion HID bar. It's simple, has a Wide beam, it's bright, and has better customer service then NiteRider. Note: If you know the trail, a good bar light is all you need. If you are racing you should know the trail!!!

Name: Mark Howard
Email: m.howard@att.net
Date: Thu, Apr 10, 2003, 11:44:20
Message:
Both are best. However, if you must choose between a helmet mounted light or a bar mounted light, here is how they differ. A helmet light lets you see exactly where your head is pointed. It gives you an advantage when riding tight switchbackes or twisty singletrack. The disadvantage is that the light is mounted very close to your eyes. This causes very small or no shadows to form behind trail detail such as rocks, ruts or holes. It can impare your depth perception and it is difficult to preceive the size of things. If you are following riders in dusty conditions, helmet mounted lights reflect off the dust that is hanging up infront of your eyes making it difficult to see beyond it. Bar mounted lights are much lower than the riders eyes and don't reflect off of the dust that is directly "in your face." Bar mounted lights give better depth of field and cast larger shadows off of trail details giving the rider a better idea on the size and proximity of objects. Bar mounted lights aim where your front wheel is pointed and not necessarily where you need to be looking like further up ahead on a twisty single track or tight switchback. To sum it up, both have there advantages & disadvantages. You have to decide. I use both (Light & Motion H.I.D.) since I have night blindness and need all the help I can get...

Name: Bill
Email: leba060@aol.com
Date: Thu, Mar 27, 2003, 10:16:40
Message:
First buy a good quality light! Then get one that has both mounting systems and a battery pack that will fit in a jersey pocket, water bottle cage or on the top tube. This way you can try both styles on your own trails before a race and choose the system that best suits your needs and ridng style. Helmet and handlebar mounts are available separetly if they both not included with the system you choose. If neither is good for you then buy both. That is the best way to see things on the trail.

Name: John
Email: john@ktua.com
Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2003, 14:58:24
Message:
The Light & Motion ARC HID bar mount is all I need to ride technical single track. The beam spread lights up a broad swath with a bright center and the sheer output puts halogens to shame. If you're going to use a headlamp as well, it better be an HID or you'll hardly notice it's on. Such a dual HID system would be the ultimate set-up. People will follow you.

Name: Mike Willingham
Email: Not Available
Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2002, 13:37:30
Message:
It is my opinion and experience that you will be much better off with the helmet mount, its less crap on the bars, and you dont have to worry about it if you crash. The helmet gives you good visibility (plenty) less weight when using both and and you can not only look at the trail but down at your bike, feet, chainstay, tires etc. very helpful during a race in the event you have mechanical troubles. GO WITH THE HELMET MOUNT NO DOUBT. Trust me, Later Hammer

Name: WoodenMike
Email: woodenmike@cyberhigh.net
Date: Tue, Sep 24, 2002, 00:11:57
Message:
"If you had only one choice between a head lamp or bike mount which would you choose?"

I will actually answer your question.

Bike mount.

If you're keeping your bike on the trail, you're okay.
If your head is going somewhere else.....

BUT, if you're serious enough to be racing at this level, you should have both.

Name: heather
Email: pghclayart@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, Jul 08, 2002, 14:44:03
Message:
BOTH BOTH BOTH...I know its expensive...but its worth every penny. I raced snowshoe last month and wanted to come home and hug the guy that told me to buy both..youll go faster and youll come out of the woods without the help of a stretcher.

Name: Joel Gwadz
Email: jjgwadz@bellatlantic.net
Date: Wed, May 22, 2002, 22:18:17
Message:
As the others said...
Both! Two systems are a must, there is a good chance that one of them will fail anyhow, so a thrid AA battery style may not be a bad idea
could save you on a night lap, sucks trying to draft on another rider to try and bogart their lights.

sp I feel like a teenager on AOL

Name: Tweek
Email: Alltweeked@mothernature.org
Date: Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 20:23:40
Message:
I'm trying to figure a way to attach a dangly disco ball-some help please!

Name: Telden
Email: wordbooty_2@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, Feb 01, 2002, 14:00:57
Message:
I myself use both a headlight and a bar-mounted light. Both are made by NiteRider. Whatever you are going to buy, buy something quality! Don't go into REI and buy a $13 headlamp that runs on double A batteries. If you are going to be serious about this, pony up the dough and buy a nice setup. You will be glad that you did!

Name: Irish
Email: irishpjh@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, Oct 03, 2001, 13:31:40
Message:
the first year we did the 24 hrs of Moab; we were stuck for cash........ and ended up using petzel ZOOM (halogen bulbs!!!) headlamps ducktaped to our helmets. effective enough at slow speeds on technical sections, a good bar mounted light is key for fast sections; as you can adjust the angle of your neck to stop it getting stiff and keep the trail illuminated!!

Name: chrissy
Email: chrissychrissychriss@email.com
Date: Sat, Sep 22, 2001, 20:53:34
Message:
You should already have a headlamp. I have three.
I opted to purchase a handelbar mount. Specialized fireballs.
It is very bright for the night. With my large headlamp collection I
chose the Duo and duck taped that sucker to my old helmet. Viola'. Do both,
be inventive. Have Fun.team v2v

Name: Mike Calabrese
Email: mcalabrese@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, Sep 04, 2001, 18:50:14
Message:
Does anyone have any experience with lights from Performance Bike.

The "ViewPoint Dual Pro Headlight" seems to have the same functionality as the "Classic Plus" from niterider at a much lower cost.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.html?SKU=5571


thanks,

-mike

Name: Hub Old N Dirty
Email: hubs@dandy.net
Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2001, 00:37:24
Message:
We ride with colored light sticks in the spokes. It adds a touch of color to the mud. A blinkey tail light is recommended as well, for additional style.

Name: Pete
Email: petea@ixpres.com
Date: Thu, May 03, 2001, 01:37:32
Message:
If you are riding Moab and you can only
have 1 light system, 100% go with the
bar mount. The course is not so
technical that you will be doing a lot
of switchbacks, and the helmet light
offers a strictly 2D perspective. At
high speed along the flat sections, you
will not be able to distinguish a hole
from a rock. The bar mount gives a 3D
perspective with shadows.



Name: Greg Buckles
Email: gbuckles@thehill.org
Date: Thu, Apr 05, 2001, 16:00:43
Message:
Headlamp. I bought both last year, and you should have both if at all possible, but there's no question in my mind that headlamp is the way to go if you must choose between the two.

Name: Kelly Cline
Email: kc2738@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2001, 08:02:38
Message:
If you had to use only one light, use the helmet mount. If you only use the bar mount, you only see what is directly in front of the bike, also, the bar mounted light will shake quite a bit. With the helmet mount you can point the light ahead of you in any direction such as to anticipate an upcoming turn...you can see the turn before you get there.

Name: Mike Bowles
Email: mike.bowles@acterna.com
Date: Mon, Feb 19, 2001, 17:33:48
Message:
You will need both!!!!!!!!!
The course has easy and very technical sections. It will simply not be safe to ride at speed without both.

Name: Jim Dobbins
Email: darksidemtb@cs.com
Date: Sun, Feb 18, 2001, 17:26:15
Message:
Last year with only a handlebar mounted light I flipped over the bars but avoiding a fall I landed on my feet. The problem was I still had much momentum. I found myself running down a dark rooted trail totally blind. So I would suggest one of each lights.

Name: Steve Johanson
Email: sjohanson2@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2001, 10:55:03
Message:
okay if I had to pick only one light (which I do not recommend) I would definitely pick the helmet mounted light. Why? Try going down a switchback with only a bar mount. You can't see anything until its too late. With the Helmet light you can turn your head and place the light on the trail ahead of you.

Name: Steve Johanson
Email: sjohanson2@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2001, 10:50:17
Message:
After a year of riding with both a Niterider Digital Pro6 bar light and a Digital Headtrip I would consider this the minimum for safe riding.

Name: Mike Johnson
Email: mikemj_dwd@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 12, 2001, 21:29:19
Message:
Head lamps look where you are looking, but add weight to your helmet, bar mounts light the trail with a wider swath of light as they are closer to the trail. Just don't mount your light on your head and your battery on your bike ,it makes you into a mountain bike yo-yo if you crash. If I had to choose I'd do a bar mount.
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